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 apostles1986 11 months ago
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just read the news that coke is now banned in the union and i gotta say im not happy bout it, granted wen im in the union i dnt drink soft drinks but its ppl's choice to drink that if they want. Instead the hippies (no offence by that) have all jumped on the bandwagon to screw things up for everyone else yet again.
Just coz pompey uni has banned coke products doesnt mean the worlds suddenly going to be a better place, get over it! |
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thedarkmaster1986 11 months ago
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ME (well thats 2 letters)Posts: 5 Member rating: 0
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sounds to me as if you have not read the story.
the union has banned coca cola products to be replaced with alternatives (Pepsi, hartridges, etc...) and in my opinion its a choice which students cant control. yet if they wish to drink coca cola products, nothing stops them from going elsewhere.
your view, seems to be very much against that of making the world a better place. without these small changes, bigger changes wont happen.
but maybe, just give a thought to the people who have lost family, friends or lives to stand up for fair wages for there work, while you sit there drinking a bottle/can of coca cola (coke, dr pepper, fanta, sprite) and reading the article (if you havent already done so).Kevin |
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Luke Simmonds 11 months ago
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They have not been removed yet.
Other pubs don't do coke Registry for example.
Wetherspoons do pepsi |
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Alex Harries, UPSU 11 months ago
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The Union hasn't "banned" killer Coke, angry Coke, slightly-grumpy Coke, or any other type of not-very-nice Coke just yet.
Union Council has, after a long period of consultation, agreed that the Union should seek ethical alternatives.
Naturally, if the substitute product tastes like fizzy water, there's no way it'll be approved since there's no benefit to anyone if the Union upsets its customers and they all go elsewhere. ;o)
For the record, have you ever had a drink of the sweet fizzy brown stuff from the Registry? I only ask because I'm not sure they have Coke there, either (I could well be wrong there though...!).
Don't panic - I'm a Coke/Pepsi fiend myself, so any alternative will need to taste damned good in my humble opinion!
Al
p.s. I don't recall seeing any hippies wandering around the Union lately - the vote was agreed on by a broad cross-section of elected students who all agree that the evidence presented against Coca Cola was pretty damning. |
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Jacob Leverett 11 months ago
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If you feel passionately against something the Union or Union Council have done put it down in an email. Outline why your against it etc etc send it into comments@upsu.net and we'll have a look at publishing it in the next edition of the paper. Its your opportunity to continue the debate and to put your opinion in print.
Jacob
ps thank you for reading our news
News Ed
Pugwash Publications |
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thegumqueen 11 months ago
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I have to admit, I enjoy a glass of coke from time to time, and was unaware of all the issues surrounding the company before they came to light at our Union. I was in the One Eyed Dog a few weeks ago and found that I was drinking a Hartridges cola, which to me, tasted just as good as (if not better than) 'the real thing' (and I used to have my mum buy both Coke and Pepsi as I wouldn't drink the latter).
And the Hartridges was cheaper!!!
The article in this weeks Pugwash News goes on to say that over 20 other universities around the country have, or are in the process of boycotting Coca-Cola, and that other boycotts have taken place in Australia, Germany, the United States and India.
Motions like this don't get passed easily and the people that have made it happen have spent over 2 years on their campaign, educating others on the issues surrounding the company. It certainly shows you what us mere students can achieve here in the Union if you feel strongly enough about something.
Now how about a campaign for more Uni buses? |
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apostles1986 11 months ago
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lol yea wud def go 4 more uni buses!: |
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Jacob Leverett 11 months ago
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Again,
You want more buses? You think its required, use our comments section to raise it, get it in print to the 20,000 odd students in Portsmouth and see what people say. Please let us be your soap box
J |
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peachyraver 11 months ago
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banning coca cola- how ridiculous! which hippy minded individuals idea was this then? for gods sake, do you think banning coke from the union (which lets face it is hardly the most popular student union in the country) is gona make a blind bit of difference to anything?!
come on now stop being silly, its all very good making a stand and that, the truth is nobody really gives a damn what coca cola gets up to, we just want to drink there product cos its nice. |
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Ben Norman, UPSU Sabbatical Officer: Student Activities & Development 11 months ago
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That would be this "hippy minded individual". That would also be the 1000 signatures of other "hippy minded individuals" who campaigned for three years so that people will know that the money they have in their pockets can profit those who commit murder. I feel obliged to point out that students can make a difference. A similar campaign was launced against Pepsi, and they duely pulled out of Burma, a country infamous for human rights abuses.
If you feel that you can stay silent in the face of such crimes , then be my guest. Just don't judge everyone by your own low standards of humanity.
That said, we at UPSU value all your opinions.. so keep 'em coming! Maybe you'd even like to write a counter-arguement feature. We are proud to ensure your freedom of speech.. even if that speech is inherently flawed. |
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Sloppy 11 months ago
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Out of interest, how far does this go? I'm guessing the bars don't have coca-cola on draught anymore, is it still in the vending machines in the lobby, and i doubt the co-op has stopped selling it? |
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Alex Harries, UPSU 11 months ago
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Grumpy, geeky old grey-headPosts: 476 Member rating: 0
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Sloppy, wrong on all three counts - the Union is still selling Coca Cola products. I agree the title of the article is somewhat misleading, but in a nutshell:
Union Council has, after a long period of consultation between the UPSU (charity) and UPEL (trading) companies, agree to work towards finding an ethical alternative to Coca Cola which doesn't taste like fizzy water ;o)
Full article here - please take a read.
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skribla 11 months ago
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Anne 11 months ago
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Not trying to be the devils advocate here, but I just dont know about this!
I havent been an active campaigner in this, but I do agree with banning coke products,particularly in their reactions to Jewish people in their middle eastern companies.
How does the human rights records in the pepsi company compare to acceptable human rights, or even to human rights as defined by Coca-cola? |
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Elle Gray, UPSU Sabbatical Officer: President 10 months ago
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 Peace xPosts: 53 Member rating: 6
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Pepsi-Co is stopping workers in Europe from organising meetings without the Company saying so - http://www.ibiblio.org/obl/reg.burma/archives/199606/msg00173.html
but apart from that it would appear they are accused of the same unethical practices accross the world - http://www.thesouthasian.org/coke_and_pepsi.html
Pepsi-Co is a major donor to the election campaigns and inaugeration parties of the Bush administration - http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E3DB1F3DF93BA25752C0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
And in return the Bush administration looks after the companies interests when it is accused of appauling buisness practices - http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0816-23.htm
This is not just the practice of major soft drink companies, but a whole host of other Corporations as mentioned in the articles.
Thats why we at the Union are looking at ethical alternatives
Message edited by: Elle Gray at: 18/11/2007 15:39live the change you wish to see |
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Elle Gray, UPSU Sabbatical Officer: President 10 months ago
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Peace xPosts: 53 Member rating: 6
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To quote Mark Thomas, Journalist and Comedian - "If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention"
Dispatches - Channel 4 - Monday 19th November - This Dispatches episode is a behind-the-scenes peer into a murky world of Coke who are having a tough time of it at the minute. Thomas investigates the way in which Coca-Cola operate. He travels to South America, India and the US and finds evidence which complete goes against Coca-Cola's image as a force for good. Such is the ill feeling toward the company, that a huge backlash from consumers has risen around the globe. How bad is it? Well, Thomas says "As if the company didn't have enough on its plate, along came intriguing scenes at War on Want's annual general meeting on 25 February. The charity's council had decided to support the call for a boycott of Coca-Cola in protest at the killing by paramilitaries of workers at Coke bottling plants in Colombia...". Then there's the wage cuts, strikes and unfair working conditions.
THIS is the real thing
read more here - http://www.markthomasinfo.com/nsarticles/default.asp?id=6live the change you wish to see |
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peachyraver 10 months ago
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id much prefer the union to use it time, resources and money in sorting out LUX and its appaling 'club nights' (i.e putting on decent events and booking good acts etc etc) than finding ethical alternatives to a soft drink. i think the majority would agree |
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Alex Harries, UPSU 10 months ago
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peachyraver wrote:
id much prefer the union to use it time, resources and money in sorting out LUX and its appaling 'club nights' (i.e putting on decent events and booking good acts etc etc) than finding ethical alternatives to a soft drink. i think the majority would agree
Ok Peachy, here's a re-cap in case you missed it the first time round:
The University's students have, through Union Council (a part of UPSU), brought the motion forward, and now the UPSU - the charity which runs the Union's clubs, societies, and student-focused democratic processes - is obliged to ask that UPEL, the company which runs trading at the Union, seek an ethical alternative to Coca Cola products.
Until very recently, UPEL's involvement in this process has been small, and the people involved in bars aren't necessarily the same people who organise the Union's entertainments, so it's not a question of them spending time on the Coke "ban" which could have been better spent on entertainments.
UPEL are also canvassing opinion on their entertainments at the moment through the entertainments survey - have you taken part?
And, re. "appaling [sic] club nights", isn't your Facebook profile photo a pic of you posing for a photo with Paul Oakenfold at the Paul Oakenfold night at the Union recently, and saying how good it was...? 
If you have constructive criticism, I *know* for a fact there are a number of people at the Union as a whole, and in the Union's trading company UPEL, who are keen to hear your views, but simply slagging the Union off helps no-one and just makes the person doing the slagging-off look angry
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peachyraver 10 months ago
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yep true, oakie at the union was a very good night, but one good event with one good headlinr once a year is not really good enough. other unions have such events and bigger as a frequent occurence, not a one off freshers special. ah well, i dont think things are gona change in my time, been ranting away on these forums for 3 years and nothing ever gets done, me and my mates have all but given up on the union anyway  |
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thegumqueen 10 months ago
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enigmatic do-gooderPosts: 56 Member rating: 3
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Hey Peachy! I've certainly noticed your rants on here!! I was wandering whether they are indeed just rants on these forums, or whether you've ever come along to Union Council to make your voice heard? The next one is on Thursday at 4pm. If you haven't been along before, this is your opportunity to get your voice heard on issues that are raised within the Union (such as the coke ban!)
While discussions boards are all very good at getting people talking about things, that's exactly what they are - discussion boards.... While the representatives that sit on Union Council try to be representative of the whole student body, the best way to find out what's actually going on is to be there and see it all for yourself, and thus ensuring that you do get your say! |
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